GQ #1: Under what conditions would you consider revenge as acceptable?
Two wrongs don't make a right. that famous phrase sums up revenge. But who wouldn't take it if it was so severe.
GQ #2: If you were being sent off to a distant land to fight a war, how would you react?
Would react the same way I had been trained, to fight.
Do you think that the days of Odysseus as a hero are over or will they continue on in Ithaca?
Odysseus is a static character and his static will remain the same.
Writers style is mostly third person, uses Harry Potter.
Thursday, December 16, 2010
response for Dan B.
Guiding Question: If you were stuck in a situation were you trying to identify a stranger, would you be as cautious and cunning as Penelope? What would you do if the stranger knew your most personal secrets?
For the former I would likely be more blunt, as for the latter I would likely do nothing.
Guiding Question: Throughout the Odyssey, histories have been the main source of description of objects and people. Is that the same in today's society? Is it possible to understand anything past or present with out knowing its history? It's impossible for you to understand something without knowing the past. The past shows why we act the way we do.
Guiding Question: Do you believe the use of Penelope's suspiciousness is a reflection on human behavior? Can you have blind trust in human society, or must you have a background?
In order that society and order be obtained sometimes the people must have blind faith in their leaders.
Author misspelled some words, with some grammar errors, talked about a guy I had never heard of.
For the former I would likely be more blunt, as for the latter I would likely do nothing.
Guiding Question: Throughout the Odyssey, histories have been the main source of description of objects and people. Is that the same in today's society? Is it possible to understand anything past or present with out knowing its history? It's impossible for you to understand something without knowing the past. The past shows why we act the way we do.
Guiding Question: Do you believe the use of Penelope's suspiciousness is a reflection on human behavior? Can you have blind trust in human society, or must you have a background?
In order that society and order be obtained sometimes the people must have blind faith in their leaders.
Author misspelled some words, with some grammar errors, talked about a guy I had never heard of.
Monday, December 13, 2010
June H. response
Do you think Odysseus is too cocky with his talks and brawn strength?
No, he has shown throughout the book his ability to lead, sometimes to give men hope you need to puff yourself up
Has Telemachus matured enough to take over his father place as king?
yes, in facing the suitors and in doing so facing his fears he has broken his chains of doubt and is ready to lead.
Do you think most people stand up for yourself/ beliefs or just go with the flow with the crowd their with?
Much of a person's descions come through peer pressure. Often everyone goes with what the group feels is right, even those who say they play by their own rules often go with the flow.
Writers style is differnt, uses several question marks, has several grammer errors and seems to be writen a 44 in the morning, a rough time for anyone to think clearly.
No, he has shown throughout the book his ability to lead, sometimes to give men hope you need to puff yourself up
Has Telemachus matured enough to take over his father place as king?
yes, in facing the suitors and in doing so facing his fears he has broken his chains of doubt and is ready to lead.
Do you think most people stand up for yourself/ beliefs or just go with the flow with the crowd their with?
Much of a person's descions come through peer pressure. Often everyone goes with what the group feels is right, even those who say they play by their own rules often go with the flow.
Writers style is differnt, uses several question marks, has several grammer errors and seems to be writen a 44 in the morning, a rough time for anyone to think clearly.
Jordan F response
Guiding Question 1: The title of this book is stranger at the gates. Do you feel that this is fitting for this chapter? Does Odysseus come home as just a stranger because of his physical appearance or has his journey home made him into a different person?
Appearance has changed. The fact that Penelope does not recognize him tells us that has changed his appearance vastly, however, since we do not know how he was when he left we cannot compare the two.
Guiding Question 2: Put yourself in Odysseus shoes. After being aware from your wife for more than twenty years could you have waited like Odysseus did, taking insults from all the suitors, and not have told your wife you had returned?
With so much time past, I would likely be used to waiting, butt wouldn't wait, would show myself and tell her I had returned.
Guiding Question 3: If resources were unlimited would there be no more war?
This is a hippie question, of course, greed will always be present, we will never all have the same views, from that stems greed, greed stems hate.
Writer’s style is unique, incorporates previous English books, has few questions.
Sunday, December 5, 2010
Book 15 captian's blog
Part 1
Athena travels to Sparta where she appears to Telemachus in his dream to go back to Ithaca to destroy the suitors.Telemachus follows her advice goes back Odysseus wishes to stay in Eumaeus hut for awhile longer, bringing up the question of just how many and would you let a stranger into your house.Odysseus tries to make him work for the suitor but he shoots it down. Odysseus and Telemachus' confrontation foreshadow an imminent confrontation and climax.
TELEMACHUS’ COMING OF AGE: What are the signs that Telemachus has matured since the last time we encountered him (in Books 1-4)? Consider his behavior toward Menelaus, Pisistratus, Theoclymenus, and his crew Telemachus was fearful of the devious suitors now, years later he has matured, faced some of his own demons and follows Athena's plea to head back to Ithaca to protect his mother.
Guiding Question:
In what ways do Odysseus and Telemachus develop during the course of the book? Do they develop at all?
Odysseus has stayed mostly static, expecting that his crew follow, when they fail he takes part of the blame upon himself, celebrates victories etc. Telemachus is dynamic, has a coming of age, grows up in the pages, becomes confident in himself.
Guiding Question 2:
Why does Homer keep bringing up hospitality?
To show how the character's respond when greeted with denial/acceptance.
Part 2
One Literary device would be the foreshadowing of the confrontation of Telemachus and Odysseus, it appears father will meet his son for the first time and something huge will happen. Another Illumination is the epic machinery in the form of Homer's time line. The line often keeps jumping around from book to book keeping the reader on his toes. Lastly Homer's description of the gods from the introduction helps to fill our minds with our own ideas of how to view these many and powerful gods, negative or positive.
Guiding Question 3:
Why does Homer choose to imclude so many gods or characters,
Homer chooses to do this to make it seem epic, the definition of Odyssey, having so many gods curious about his future creates a sense of awe in the reader.
Part 3
Does muscle beat brawn? Odysseus defeats the mighty cyclops with his outstanding cunning, but also hast to use many men, in doing so indeed uses brawn; however the majority is cunning. The quest for glory is also a recurring theme. Odysseus makes his name known throughout the lands, he halfway taunts the cyclops telling him that was himself that defeated the powerful cyclops. When Odysseus is visiting a distant land they wish that he to would partake in the Olympic games, he declines, after all that he has gone through no desire to gain any more, if you consider fighting and slaughtering your enemies honor but that is another entirely different question. In the 1986 movie, Platoon, Charlie Sheen plays a young college kid who drops out in order that he fight in Vietnam. Upon arrival he sees that the glory that he imagined is not so clear cut, fighting a pathetic opponent, showing brutal tactics in one scene with the villagers, not quite the glory that he was imagining. Last year in the college basketball end of the year tournament Butler, a mostly unheraled team made it into the final vs powerhouse Duke. Duke ended up winning but Butler had two opportunity at taking a shot to win the game, the last heave, a mid court shot, just barely missed.
Guiding question 4
Is Telemachus that David, if so are the suitors the Goliath? if not, how is?
Telemachus is definitely David, the underdog, his coming of age shows him becoming stronger, the suitors however are not a worthy opponent.
Athena travels to Sparta where she appears to Telemachus in his dream to go back to Ithaca to destroy the suitors.Telemachus follows her advice goes back Odysseus wishes to stay in Eumaeus hut for awhile longer, bringing up the question of just how many and would you let a stranger into your house.Odysseus tries to make him work for the suitor but he shoots it down. Odysseus and Telemachus' confrontation foreshadow an imminent confrontation and climax.
TELEMACHUS’ COMING OF AGE: What are the signs that Telemachus has matured since the last time we encountered him (in Books 1-4)? Consider his behavior toward Menelaus, Pisistratus, Theoclymenus, and his crew Telemachus was fearful of the devious suitors now, years later he has matured, faced some of his own demons and follows Athena's plea to head back to Ithaca to protect his mother.
Guiding Question:
In what ways do Odysseus and Telemachus develop during the course of the book? Do they develop at all?
Odysseus has stayed mostly static, expecting that his crew follow, when they fail he takes part of the blame upon himself, celebrates victories etc. Telemachus is dynamic, has a coming of age, grows up in the pages, becomes confident in himself.
Guiding Question 2:
Why does Homer keep bringing up hospitality?
To show how the character's respond when greeted with denial/acceptance.
Part 2
One Literary device would be the foreshadowing of the confrontation of Telemachus and Odysseus, it appears father will meet his son for the first time and something huge will happen. Another Illumination is the epic machinery in the form of Homer's time line. The line often keeps jumping around from book to book keeping the reader on his toes. Lastly Homer's description of the gods from the introduction helps to fill our minds with our own ideas of how to view these many and powerful gods, negative or positive.
Guiding Question 3:
Why does Homer choose to imclude so many gods or characters,
Homer chooses to do this to make it seem epic, the definition of Odyssey, having so many gods curious about his future creates a sense of awe in the reader.
Part 3
Does muscle beat brawn? Odysseus defeats the mighty cyclops with his outstanding cunning, but also hast to use many men, in doing so indeed uses brawn; however the majority is cunning. The quest for glory is also a recurring theme. Odysseus makes his name known throughout the lands, he halfway taunts the cyclops telling him that was himself that defeated the powerful cyclops. When Odysseus is visiting a distant land they wish that he to would partake in the Olympic games, he declines, after all that he has gone through no desire to gain any more, if you consider fighting and slaughtering your enemies honor but that is another entirely different question. In the 1986 movie, Platoon, Charlie Sheen plays a young college kid who drops out in order that he fight in Vietnam. Upon arrival he sees that the glory that he imagined is not so clear cut, fighting a pathetic opponent, showing brutal tactics in one scene with the villagers, not quite the glory that he was imagining. Last year in the college basketball end of the year tournament Butler, a mostly unheraled team made it into the final vs powerhouse Duke. Duke ended up winning but Butler had two opportunity at taking a shot to win the game, the last heave, a mid court shot, just barely missed.
Guiding question 4
Is Telemachus that David, if so are the suitors the Goliath? if not, how is?
Telemachus is definitely David, the underdog, his coming of age shows him becoming stronger, the suitors however are not a worthy opponent.
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